Subject: No Web Monopolists eg Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, What App etc From: Invite_Sender@Monopolist_Addict I append http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/std/no_web_monopolists.txt Needs to be merged with http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/contact/#no_social_media General (See further below re. particular Monopolists_ Sorry I will not join your web group. I avoid monopolies that do data entrapment etc &/or force us to use real time instant web + login just to see if any new incoming messages. I won't waste my time learning proprietary closed systems & receiving unwanted service & advertising mail from operators. I will not allow monopolist operators the chance to censor messages in & out. No Harvesting: - I won't allow a monopolist to harvest my mail address & traffic & contacts to advertise at me or associates, nor to train AI against my messages / personality / style. - I don't care that some logins are `free' as in costing no money. Please use Email: Email is is better than web: it downloads from all pending, out of real time before recipient starts a read session, avoiding need to accesg every web forum, avoiding need of continuous internet access to multiple competing web omopolists sites, just to check messages. Email is more efficient, quicker & eg my publix mail list server is run by me, I guarantee is doing No data harvesting, spieng, advertising, cookies, tracking etc. Please look at eg http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo/north or http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo or name me some other non commercial mail list server you'd prefer we join. My public server http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo & other public servers are Free for public use, no money, no adverts, no cookies, no harvesting, no tracking, no strings attached. & they forward messages instantly, not later after you login on a proprietary monopolists web forum. No remote storage & web forums: - No Mail accessed remotely that needs constant net access to read/ write/ search. - No mail on servers abused by alien American NSA spies. - No slow forum sites like ex toytowngermany_dot_com<, burdened by a slew of issues inc. adverts, spam, cookies, viruses, & censors. No Security: Anyone skilled in computers, knows that the more glitzy crud stuck on web sites to please Joe Loser, the more there is that can & will go wrong, & perhaps be a security loophole. An [in]- security paper on Facebook, (no URL saved). was scarey, heavy reading, even with a math then computing background, (so Facebook doubtless feel safe that it's clueless end users will remain happily ignorant. No Spam: My spam filter normaly discards unseen, automated link requests sent from robots at Linkedin & Facebook etc. I'm happy to stay in personal contact, through normal direct email, phone & events with beer/ coffee/ walking/ biking/ skiing / tech. mail lists, whatever. But not interested in LinkedIn & FaceBook etc USA + NSA corporate sites. See also: http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/contact/#no_social_media PS Never mail any @mailman.berklix lists from any such site, only from real personal email addresses, there's always danger of flooding, connecting 2 robots ! http://www.berklix.com Computer Consultancy http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/cv/ My Resume - English & German http://www.berklix.com/free/ Free Software http://www.berklix.org Free Organisations & Clubs ============================== Which Monopolist Did You Message Me From or Reccomend To Me ? : Meetup.Com: A message sent to me from a user of meetup.com was blocked by meetup.com, who just incited me to login to meetup (when I had connectivity), to avoid their profiling questions, avoid reading their adverts, avoid their invites to pay money for better service, all before I could read sender's message, LinkedIn: Thanks for your request to link from me & to me. YES Probably, But only If you provide a full publicly accessible web page: Then I am interested, please confirm if so & provide precise URL (=web ref) to your _full_ detail, eg not on LinkedIn & FaceBook etc, http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/contacts/ But first read on to make sure your page IS public. NO : If you use a commercial link swap service of a [would be] Monopolist: I deliberately avoid Social & Business Media companies such as Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, What's App, Google's stuff, clouds & web forums etc ! I do Not link to superficial pages hosted by commercial intermediaries, that require the public all get logins & passwords before one can fully access detail: They are just more would be monopolists trying to spread their addiction. If you don't know I avoid computer monopolists, you don't yet know me well enough to link with, Sorry. Facebook: Amazing that some vendors advertise on public street hoardings, Only with address of facebook ! not their own domain, trapping themselves & customers to subservience under proprietary facebook.