SORBS - A bad RBL Black List
Sorbs extorts money for `corrections' to their
fraudulent listing that Berklix will never
If your ISP (=mail provider) uses lists from Sorbs,
ask them to dump Sorbs, & get a better competent
professional black list provider, if you ISP refuses,
best dump them. Berklix is by far not
the only innocent victim of
- Some email servers import
RBL / DNSBL IP black lists of spammer domains,
that list spammer IP numbers to discard mail
Domain Name System-based blackhole lists have
suppliers that are
"questionable or reckless" etc
- That their lists may be received by many non
paying `customer' recipients, is not necessarily an
index that they are Good. Best also investigate eg:
- Do they ever notify listed domains theyve
been added, or periodically remind they're
still on, to give the innocent a chance to
investigate, refute mistakes, or deal with odd
rogue users etc ?
- Do they ever timeout
or revalidate IPs ?
- How good are they at detected malicious
false reports & masquerades ?
- How good will they be when it comes to be
your turn or your mailing associates, to be
falsely listed of spamming by some mistake of
the black list provider, or by malicious false
accusation from someone who bears you or your
domain a grudge who files false libel with a
gullible reckless black list provider ? How
quick is it to navigate their web to get a free
correction of their false data if your domain
is innocent ?
Sorbs: Views other than from Berklix
Sorbs : the view from Berklix
Sorbs.Net has for 5
years falsely &
libellously listed a Berklix server as
- Sorbs damaged Innocent Berklix &
users. Sorbs owes all domain owners & users
& lists hosted on the IP for 5 years of
false libel & consequential
- Why Did Sorbs Libel Innocent Berklix ? Why Do
They Extort A Fee To Fix Their Mistakes ? Will
they do you too ?
- Maybe Sorbs fumbled analysis of a
masqueraded spam ?
- Maybe Sorbs gullibly accepted a
malicious lie without checking, eg from a
Berklix mail list users too lazy to
unsubscribe themself ?
- Maybe some other malicious person
seeing some mail from a Berklix user,
lied to Sorbs & Sorbs accepted it
without question ?
- Maybe someone at Sorbs was tempted to
sprinkle in added random IPs to boost
employee productivity & extort more
revenue from Innocent domains for Sorbs
? Unlikely, but a business model for a
criminal, & there's no assumption of
trust for Sorbs perpetrators after 5 years
- Anything might be possible. Sorbs never
reported to Berklix any
spammer accusation, & Berklix was
given no chance to examine logs, or refute
false Sorbs claim.
They don't publish an Impressum or address
where to complain or sue them.
They dont list being a member of a trade
ethics body to complain to.
whois shows: Creation Date:
- Sorbs seeks to extort payment to
correct their own false records, that's a
- Sorbs are not trusworthy. They waste
time of the innocent & extort
payment for false libel.
- Presumably Sorbs may list genuine spam
sites too, but that's insufficient reason
to use Sorbs.
- There's other better black list
providers than Sorbs.
- That Sorbs deters guilty spammers as well
as extort fees from spammers is irrelevant -
Innocent, small &
non commercial. Sorbs owes Berklix for 5
years of damages.
- Sorbs owes the net an apology, a better web
site, better spam analysis, external
accountability, & public logging of spam
- Little chance of that when they can
continue to irresponsibly damage the Innocent with the guilty, avoid
libel damages, & extort money.
- Best instead search for a reputable
https :// en . wikipedia . org / wiki /
- The Berklix
servers have used fixed IPs for
decades, no open relay SMTP, virtually
no users, certainly no spammers, does
have postmaster@ & abuse@ etc,
& hundreds of users on local lists
live in the city of the server, &
many could vouch the postmaster@ is no
skulking spammer, but is:
http:// www . berklix . org /~ jhs /
contact / Even the look of the
webs doesn't look like normal
anonymous secretive spammer pits,
glance at eg:
has for decades carried
free mail lists (truly really free,
no ads, no harvesting etc, unlike fake
only nominally free lists from
(Previously a few removed list members
on a long since removed list refused to
use unsubscribe mechanisms on majordomo
mailman, & a very few
maliciously lazy & brain dead
incompetents falsely reported the whole
list server to other Black Hole Lists
operators, (perhaps it was easier for
lazy fools with a click & fumble
mouse interface than learning to email
in Ascii eg unsubscribe gea
& then Ascii mail the confirm key
?) So it's occasionally before been
needed to get malicious false spam
reports cleared, thus some experience
with other RBL clearance sites, but
they weren't crass greedy irresponsible
fakes like Sorbs.
2022-09-10: RBL Scanner
for a tool to periodically run, to
automatically scan with a list of RBL
providers, whether any RBL has silently
listed your domain names or numbers: