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This is: http://www.berklix.org/gea/walk/

Also: http://www.berklix.org/walk/

For skiers, walkers, cyclists, water skiers, surfers etc, ie summer sports.

This page is pointed to by gea-walk@ mail list.

If you ski in winter, or want to later, also join our Ski Mail List

  • Subscribe (free) to the Walkers mail list.
  • Help page for the free automatic mail list subscriber
  • Organisers: There's a number of walks organisers. They have their own Organisers Mail List , to optimise dates planning for next month's programme etc if they want (rather than inefficiently where every organiser just makes a bid at a date, & some weeks there was no walk scheduled.
  • Join the list & the introductory mail gives more info, & you'll get future walk announcements. All sort of walks. Mountain, flat land, sunday, country, fast, slow, medium, mystery etc.
  • Only a few hikes & walks get photo'ed & web'd here, just if someone takes a camera & sends pictures to Julian.
    • 2004 05 20 En route up to Herzogstand
      2004 05 20 herzogstand
    • 2007 02 11 fackel richard
      2007 02 11 Burning Torch Night Walk
    • 2008 02 24 wolfratshausen to schaftlarn
      2008 02 24 wolfratshausen schaftlarn
    • 2008 03 30 richards walk
      2008 03 30
    • 2008 05 25 Jochberg Walchensee
      2008 05 25 Jochberg Walchensee
    • 2008 08 03 hoellental
    • 2008 10 05 schliersee to tegernsee
    • 2008 10 12 Tegernsee
    • 2009.07.26 Mountain hike Schliersee to Tegernsee
    • 2009.07.26 Richard brisk 12Km country walk
    • 2009.08.08 Bike ride Paul Julian Ute + ? 12km Olympiaeinkaufszentrum -> Karlsfelder See
    • 2009.08.16 Richard 12km brisk walk
    • 2009.09.27 Richard 12km brisk walk
    • 2009.09.27 Waltraud's hike Saulgrub
    • 2009.10.04 Mountain Hike Rotwand
    • 2009.10.11 Brisk Walk with Richard
    • 2009.10.18 Hike, Herzogstand + Heimgarten with Nigel Herzogstand + Heimgarten
    • 2009.11.15 Nigel Fast walk
    • 2009.11.22 Nigel + Irmgard Fast walk 15km
    • 2009.12.13 Nigel + Irmgard Fast walk 10 km Kirchseeon to Ebersberg.
    • 2009.12.26 Xmas Walk Nordfriedhof -> Park -> Cafe Schwabing. Paul 2009 12 26 isar
      2009 12 26 Boxing Day walk along River Isar       to Pub with Beer Gardeners
    • 2009.12.30 Richard Brisk Walk
    • 2010.01.10 [Fast] Walk in snow Julian (Dieter has a blog here)
    • 2010.01.24 Fast walk Julian
    • 2010.01.31 Fast Snow Walk Julian
    • 2010.02.07 no walk
    • 2010 02 15 walk around grafing to ebersberg
      2010.02.14 Fast walk in the snow Julian led a Snow Walk starting Grafing Bahnhof, around, through Grafing, on to Ebersberg.
    • 2010 02 21 Starnberg > Andechs > Herrsching
      2010.02.21 Fast walk. Julian led Starnberg > Andechs > Herrsching - Approx 21 km, arrived in dark maybe 19:00 or so.
      The leg to Herrsching was longer than normal, further North to road as path down to valley was too steep & icy.
    • 2010.02.28 Fast walk 20km Julian Holz Riegel Kreuth -> Schäftlarn -> Starnberg.
    • 2010.03.15 Walk Julian Wesling -> Starnberg
  • Ski Trips In winter months.
  • As well as mountain, country, fast & long walks, & walks to a monastery etc, we also do shorter walks, some in country, some in town with a commentary on local history, & some eg from a U bahn in the English Garden (a park) to a beer Garden.
  • Some walks are planned well ahead, so used to be on the monthly programme
  • Other sports (& indoor) events get announced on general mail lists.
  • Fancy a beer garden in Munich Friday/Saturday evening ?
  • Club events are organised by unpaid unqualified volunteers.
    Participation is at your own risk and your own responsibility. We disclaim all responsibility. If you don't like that, do not come.
  • No children ! Local laws say a lot about responsibilities of organisers, events & kids. We're not paid & not interested to shoulder your problems. No children under 18.
  • Pictures from some walks.
  • Please volunteer to lead a walk, You do Not need to be fast. If you're slower, that would suit some, particularly beginners & irregular walkers. We have some normal & fast leaders for normal & longer walks, but we're short of leaders for shorter & slower walks. You need to be good with a map & compass. Contact Author or Organisers.

The Fast, The Slow, Wimps, Moaners & The Clueless ;-)

Do Read & Listen to announcements. Those who ignore what's announced, make themselves a nuisance to organiser, group, & themselves ! Examples:

No Stops En Route - If announced

No cafe to rest/ sit/ warm/ shade/ cool/ eat/ drink, no railway to wimp out early, no village, no phone, no ice cream, no taxi, no toilet, no bar, no tap to fill water bottle. Just because some other organiser stop on route, does Not give you right to expect/ ask/ depend on a stop on route ! If you want food en route, bring it from home, or buy from bakery train station before departure.

"Brisk Walk" - If announced

Brisk means faster than normal walking.
If you will not walk somewhat faster than normal, you will be a problem to yourself & the group. Brisk is not a relaxed ramble!

"Fast Walk" - If announced

  • Expect a fast or tiring long walk !
  • If you walk at a normal speed, you are Too Slow, do not come ! Expect to be left behind, to find your own way back. Bring your own map & compass to find your own way, alone.
  • We aim for a combination of eg fast 3 hours non stop, or minimum 15km to perhaps 20+ km.
    (I blush at defining "Fast" at these low numbers, as real long distance pilgrims going eg France to Spain used to walk maybe 25/ 30 km between stops ? & armies march/ yomp long distance with heavy loads on worse terrain than us leisure walkers)
  • Only about 15% of our walkers enjoy the Fast walks.
  • Normal walkers would be uncomfortably stressed/ the fast walks.
  • We occasionaly throw in a few extra kilometres en route for a nicer view, a better route or pub, etc. It may be discussed en route, but moaning is not acceptable.
  • Fast walk organisers & walkers will not change plans & slow speed for a slow walker.
  • Are we trying to scare off all but Fast people from walks announced as Fast ? Yes, Certainly ! smiley face

Moaners

  • If you will not or can not walk according to the anouncement, eg "Brisk", "Fast", "Non Stop" whatever ... ; Do not come; stay home, or go on or organise some other walk. Do not try to degrade a walk by slowing us down/ diverting or limiting us, or moaning.
  • Organiser's wishes out rank moaners by far. If in doubt do not come.
  • Become an Organiser if you want some other walk format. Organise, announce, plan, navigate, & lead a walk of your preference. Our mail lists, web etc available to help you organise walks, (In particular we could use more organisers of slow walks.)
  • Moaning About Speed & Wanting Rests.
    • Inexperienced people sometimes assert we should all go slower for some slow person, or we should divert, pause, or shorten route etc: No ! - Wrong !
      Organisers & fit regulars know from experience:
      • There's too often someone slow at the back, risking losing us, potentially slowing us down.
      • Slow people if accomodated, encourage more slow people, on that walk or future walks.
      • Walking groups that slowed a bit each week, have before ended up far too slow.
      • Fit walkers need & rely on leaders to keep the pace up.

The Clueless: Guess What ... What a surprise ;-)

  • Wimps: Realise There's Mud In The Country !
    Don't moan that you don't want to walk on mud ! We really dislike walking on roads. We walk on muddy paths & across fields without complaint.
    If you want tarmac, do not join us, Use a path in a park in the city. We will Not all walk on tarmac because some wimp wants a quicker cleaner route to the luxury of a toilet in a cafe, or to take a short cut to a railway station to rush back to Munich. (We even had a fool in stiletto heels once, who got sent home smiley face )
  • Toilets
    • There are not many in the country.
    • We do not stop the group for you.
    • Do Not expect us to be diverting past cafes for you.
    • Toilets on some S Bahn stations get closed for vandalism.
    • A single toilet, if it exists, with many females wanting to use it before we start a walk is a dreadfully anoying waste of much time. Go at home before leaving or pay a few cents at eg the clean one at Munich central station (between International Presse & S Bahn) before meeting time !
    • You'd think people could think that out for themselves, but they don't, that's why it's here.
    • If you have a week bladder, an S Bahn trip + a 3 hour non stop walk in the winter country without a leaf on a bush might be a problem, especially to females. Plan ahead, synchronise.

Walk organisers are Not paid

Organisers are out for a decent walk & exercise, at the speed & format They anounced, Ideas can be welcome, but remember you are a guest on the organiser's walk they bothered to organise, not a paying customer entitled to anything.) The more people in the group, the less flexibility is possible, Don't support a moaner, explain to a monare why they should comply with group: We don't have enough organisers, Moaners discourage organisers from organising, We want more organisers for more walks. Moaners degrade good walks.

Group Tickets

All people should best individually themselves write their own name on back of group tickets, to reduce chance of misunderstanding who has to pay who how much. Legibly in block capitals. This helps ticket buyers owed money, stops occasional free loaders, & assures people who don't want to be fined if some problem over who & how many on which ticket.

MVV - Innen- Raum Ticket Syndrome

Those prior possessing MVV Innen- Raum tickets are often a source of confusion: they tend to give no firm loud simple Yes or No to the vital question "Will you join our group ticket ?", & to delay, wandering round asking how many on which ticket. Innen- Raum Ticket holders should turn up first, (especially if train departs soon after meeting time), for they need maximum time to organise themselves, & Not spread confusion "Did they [finally] commit to our ticket ? Are we free to sell seat to someone else to reduce costs ?"

BOB Group Tickets - 6 not a good number - better more or less

At July 2009
  • A group ticket for up to 5 people costs 21 Euro.
  • A single person day ticket costs 14 Euro.
Per Head:
  • 5 People: 4.2 Euro
  • 6 People: 5.83 Euro
  • 7 People: 6 Euro : 2 Group tickets. Advantageous if group splits on mountain, or in bar after before trains to Munich, or on after by MVV. Leaders can consider spreading tickets before hike starts (not to those who may rush ahead).
  • 8 People: 5.25 Euro.
Tickets valid for day of stamping, Not till 24 hours later same time next day.

Tobacco Smoke Avoidance

Nearly all walkers are non smokers, If you are a smoker Please either don't smoke on the walk, or stay at the back & down wind & Please ensure your smoke does Not blow on all the rest who are out for some Clean Air ! Please also do Not take your last drag before jumping on a train then exhaling death breath ;-)

A German speaking group Nicht Raucher Initiative Muenchen Also does mountain walks

  • Use their search engine
  • There's some mountain walks listed in their 01/2009 programme (inc a picture of them on a peak in snow).
  • see the centre pull out of their by subscription paper newsletter,
  • Contact: Guenther K. 3171212

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